Millumin Control from ETC Ion Desk

lotech

I'm currently working on a show that is using an ETC Ion lighting desk. I'm attempting to get it to send next column commands either via DMX or OSC but having not a lot of luck. Has anyone else used one successfully?

We have a Enttec DMX Pro Mk2 but couldn't seem to assign a dmx value for the go command. All the documentation I can find is for Millumin 1.

As for Art Net, I've successfully sent OSC from one computer running Millumin 2 to the main machine so know its working that way - just the weirdness of the desks OSC implementation is getting us.

Any info people have would be appreciated.

Millumin

Hello @lotech,

You can follow this tutorial to understand how to plug your Mk2 to Millumin : of course, as you want to receive DMX (not sending it), be sure your device's mode is set to "receive".
Also, display Millumin's monitor (see "Window" menubar) to check what you're receiving from your lighting desk or your Mk2.

Best. Philippe

sanderloonen

Hi Philippe, 

I dont think this is what @iotech means.

What would be very useful for us would be control of the Millumin software over Artnet.

much like catalyst.

in an ideal world I would be able to have the same level of control over artnet as we do over MIDI.

Would it be possible for Artnet signals to come into the interactions learning?

that would enable us to use the video as a real lighting tool and integrate even better.

I hope it will be possible, or maybe it already is and I am not seeing it?

thanks

Sander

Millumin

Hello @sanderloonen,

The level of interaction is the same for MIDI, OSC, Artnet, ... They are only signals that trigger a function in Millumin.
In brief : yes, you can control Millumin via Artnet directly. See this tutorial and use Millumin's monitor (see "Window" menubar) to check what you're receiving from your lighting desk or your Mk2.

That's why I think my answer is relevant (let me know Lotech) : the problem is to configure the ETC Ion lighting desk to get OSC or Artnet. Or use an USB DMX as a workaround.

Best. Philippe

sanderloonen

Hi Philippe, 

thanks for the fast reply. 

I am trying to get the artnet into Millumin, but no luck. 

My setup is;

1 laptop with ETC eos software artnet out on univers 0

1 laptop with Millumin and Luminet artnet monitor.

I see the artnet in luminet monitor, but not in Millumin. there is nothing in the Millumin signals monitor.

The artnet in Millumin is green, so I suppose it is connected.

I can also see the artnet in Quartz composer if I monitor there.

Please explain what I am doing wrong.

Millumin

Hello @sanderloonen,

Did you try with only Millumin running (not Luminet) ?

Best. Philippe

sanderloonen

HI Philippe,

I just tried this, no luck...

Do you have a chance to try this on one of your machines?

thanks

Sander

Millumin

Hello @sanderloonen,

This is quite strange. So :
- you're receiving Artnet in Luminet
- you quit Luminet
- you start Millumin
- you open the "monitor" : but no Artnet is received
- is that right ?

Are you sure you're sending Artnet 1 or Artnet 2 ? Millumin doesn't support Artnet 3 for now.

Best. Philippe

sanderloonen

Hi Philippe, 

just tried it again and I am getting no artnet into Millumin. 

I see it in Luminet, quit luminet and still nothing in Millumin....

if I make a quick patch in Quartz I can see Artnet coning in as well, so it is def Millumin.

sorry...

Millumin

Hello @sanderloonen,

Ok, let's check everything :

1. Disconnect your computer running ETC eos software.
   Check that you have only one network connection (only Wifi or only an Ethernet cable).
   
   
2. Reboot your computer.
   Check that no Artnet software is running.
   
   
3. Create an empty project and be sure Artnet is configured as below :
   
   
   
4. On your phone (connected to the same network), use an application such as iVLD or ArtnetControl
   (alternatively you could use another computer running Millumin and sending Artnet via a data-track)
   
   
5. Check in Millumin's monitor that you receive Artnet :
   

Let us know the results.
Best. Philippe

sanderloonen

Hello Philippe, 

I am finally back home on my own router and own setup (I was touring before)

it is working now.

But you are right,

Luminet Monitor need to be OFF. 

it "hijacks" the artnet output from millumin.

After some testing I have found out that ANY Art-net capable software running on the same computer needs to be off.

this includes ETC EOS or Quartzcomposer. 

this is inconvenient because it means I always have to use 2 computers if I want to control Millumin over Artnet.

It seems that only Millumin has this problem, I can use Quartz and EOS at the same time and see everything in Luminet just fine.

I hope that this is something that you can change?

thanks

Sander

Millumin

Hello @sanderloonen,

I made a test with MadMapper, and both were sending Artnet to another computer.
But yes, with some other softwares, there can be such limitations.

For now, the Artnet V2 implementation is working well, so we won't change anything in the official version. But we're interested in implementing Artnet V3, so this might come in a future beta. At this moment, we could change how Millumin handle Artnet with other softwares.
However, I cannot give you an ETA, since this isn't a priority in our roadmap. I hope you'd understand our position.

Best. Philippe

sanderloonen

I understand Philippe, 

no rush at all.

Sander

sanderloonen

Hi, 

I am back on trying to get EOS to control Millumin.

For an upcoming production I am trying to get the Lighting desk (ETC EOS in this case) to launch columns directly. 

in the EOS I made a fixture that has level wheels for the layers and scene buttons for the column

these buttons send a value in artnet (like 1, 3, 5, 7)

I am trying to get this to trigger a column by setting a range that a switch/toggle should respond to.

However, there is no way I am able to get this to work...

it seems like Millumin does not respond to a limited range, but rather the whole spectrum?

can anyone help out with how to do this,

I need to have one dmx channel that, depending on its value triggers a column. 

also I noticed that the artnet value in the Monitor starts counting at channel 0, and the channel in the interactions learing starts at 1. 

hope to hear from someone..

Ciao

Sander

sanderloonen

ok, figured out the triggering of Columns over art net (at least from ETC EOS)

1) make sure the artnet reaches Millumin (with the monitor)

2) start interactions learning

3) select the column you want to trigger

4) in EOS move the channel you want to use for triggering the columns

Do 3 and 4 for each column you want to trigger

5) in Millumin interactions learning, change the transformer for the launch column to "Linear"

6) click the calibrate button

7) set the minimum and maximum value (from 0-255) (in my case, for column 1 it is from 0 to 1, column 2, 1 to 2, column 3, 2-3)

thats it, seems to work....

thanks

Sander

Millumin

Hello @sanderloonen,

Thank you for the info.
It's strange to change the range from 0-255 to 1-2 or 2-3, but I guess this is why the ETC EOS sends Artnet by default.

Best. Philippe

PS : we'll fix the display in the Monitor for the next update (channel shouldn't start at 0 but at 1)

sanderloonen

Hi Philippe, 

I am not changing the range, I am using the single digits to have a possibility to trigger 255 columns.

hope this clarifies, 

Sander